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irreparable damage to the u.s. economy. >>> and jump t to the top of the ftse 100 after third quarter revenue beat the forecast, burberry had earnings higher than expected. >>> all right. sorted out my mike issues. "worldwide exchange" is slightly different today because we're analyzing the first german gdp numbers. >> and i come to the u.s. where it's all annualized and we stick to the european data and it's quarter on quarter. given the context, we're still working through what all that means. >> exports in november, down 94.1 billion is where we essentially went. 98.4 billion was the october numbers. so exports in november driving down. and that gdp number is worth pulling out. exports for the year, up 4.1%. as far as production is concerned, it was up 2% in november. but the forecast were for it to rise up 1%. it was a very weak october, as well. it was this production and that production number. when that came out, it essentially made people put a pretty fourth quarter in the whole, kelly. what we're trying to do is derive what the annual figure was. >> exactly. and before we get to that
the world. china's economy rebounds into the fourth quarter, beating expectations and snapping seven straight quarters of slow growth. >>> the british government says there's no indication that the hostage crisis is over in algeria as the reports emerge that doesz may have been killed in a rescue operation. >>> investors are unnerved by big spending plans in 2013. plus, glencore pushes back its mega merger by weeks as the regulatory commission begin necessary south africa. >>> welcome to the program. i want to bring you some breaking news in terms of energy prices. the iea is out with its latest 2013 oil report. it expects u.s. oil demand to remain flat on the year. but the headline here does appear that the market, according to the iea language here, is tighter than we thought. all of a sudden, the market looks tighter than we thought. that's the main message we're getting from the organization. it says the world forecast to consume about 90.8 million barrels per day in 2013, up by about a quarter of a million since december. despite seeing the u.s. slight to even negative, seen as
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to do is have that take place when the republican position on the debt takes the economy hostage. that is off the table. i think the president is smart to be firm and clear on that. next time it would be democrats if we had a republican president. ashley: would you agree, i know it is out of your area, but the senate has not passed a budget in four years now. would you agree with republicans that it is not the way to go and i could, in fact, be breaking the law without i do agree with them. we actually have not passed the budget. i am with them on this concern about our inability to actually do the basic work that a legislature must do. ashley: i know bernanke, timothy geithner, rating agencies and many more states what is the point of a debt ceiling? we routinely raise it anyway. what is the purpose? >> there is no purpose. the debt ceiling has become a device for fiscal irresponsibility. republicans and democrats both dated. senator obama voted against the debt ceiling increase. if we have this credit downgrade, and we had a credit downgrade, as you know, last august. we have t
's stories. the big one, china aes economy rebounding in the final quarter of to 12. growth to 7.9%, up from 7.4% the appreciate quarter. economists do caution, though, that a chinese recovery is likely to be gradual and weak to drive a global rebound without improvement in the u.s. and europe. also, the fate of dozens of hostages in algeria is still unknown. the algerian military stormed a gas field where the workers were being held. six people if not more are believed to have been killed. >>> a team of experts from boeing and the aviation experts are arriving in japan today. today the japan transportation safety board released a picture of the battery. they said the battery was blackened and carbonized, had a bulge in the middle and weighed 11 pounds less than normal. >>> and the interview everybody is talking about, i stayed up late to watch it, lance armstrong telling oprah that he cheated. >> in all seven of your tour de france victories, did you ever take banned substances or blood dope? >> yes. i view the situation as one big lie that i've repeated a lot of times. i'll spend the rest
as well as the global economy. according to rex macy it is. he thinks there's a good chance that risk fears will rise and, therefore, the market will pull back. will that be the moment for investors to get in. good to see you, gentlemen. thanks so much for joining us. what are you expecting in terms of this market 2013? >> sure. well, right now we're at 1472 on the s&p. we think it's going to go marginally higher from here, but it's not going to be a smooth ride. we've got a vix at 13 and change. that's too low. that's where the complacency comes from. you see it there. as we move into the debt ceiling debate, it can be far harder to solve than the taxes, we think the market can be down for a while, and before it comes back up. >> so you're looking for a decline, and perhaps that is an entry point for some. do you agree with that? >> i think any decline is an opportunity to buy, maria. i'm very, very bullish on u.s. equities and one of the main reasons i am the u.s. energy story which i think is a story that's not being told as well as it should be. in 2012 the u.s. oil production was
is happening over in europe. germany seeing a contraction in their economy. whether or not it is a recession still a little too early to say. as a result of what is happening in europe these stocks are down. gm was down over 4% today, big loss for the car companies because of europe. liz: and two vix etfs, volatility exchange traded funds, hitting new 52-week highs. even though the volatility index continues to tumble. what you see are two where you can make bearish bets on the vix, that would make sense, right? xiv, as you see. we've got them moving higher today. david: the battle over the debt ceiling and paying the bills that d.c. is racking up continues. representative jerry nadler, happens to be my representative, he is looking to stop future fights. he has introduced legislation to end the debt ceiling debate by getting rid of the debt ceiling all together. but would that give too much power to the president? that is the argument. that is the debate. we'll take you and jerry nadler there coming up. liz: germany's central bank pulling some of its gold out of new york and paris. we have
, which we do a great job as the vascular system for the global economy. they build large fluid systems for petrochemical companies, energy companies, as the economy comes in, as industrial production comes back, they're well positioned. so, we're pretty constructive on the asset class, particularly because a lot of people don't seem to be all that constructive on the asset class. >> steve sax, what about you? where are you seeing the flow? what are investors particularly grav stating towards these days? >> it's till equities and all of last year, credential the first couple weeks of this year, more in particular, though, small caps and midcaps. we've started to see them out-perform large caps. that was the story of 2012, with particularly the mega caps. so, if you look at the russell 2000, the mid cap 400 versus say the s&p 500, we've not only seen more flows in those areas, but we're actually seeing the out-performance, which is also a theme i think probably continues, certainly in the first half of this year. fundamentals are really strong in u.s. equities, and that translates well g
stronger in the second half. >> for the economy? i think we have to divorce the economy from the market. >> have we been price thatting that out? >> we have to be clear that markets are totally different from the economy. for the markets, we're looking at 2% scenario. scenario a would be similar to 2012 where i think actually the economy doesn't do that well. the first half is difficult. second half is a bit better. we've still got the fed printing 5 billion a month. we could see a rerun of 2012. maybe mid to single high digit returns. >> did you get exposure of citi to bofa here? >> we wouldn't be. we're taking a little bit of money off the table or indeed i think we did. the level of implied volatility makes perfect sense here. >> we'll leave it here for now. thanks very much. over to you, ross. >> kelly, thanks for that. so we are just about an hour and 20 minutes into the trading day here in europe. you can see advancers just about outpace decliners by a ratio of 6 to 4 and we're up near the high point of the session which has dragged us back into prospect on that particular indices
for the global economy. then the free money on the sidelines thanks to the federal reserve and bankers globally. what sectors lead? >> check off all those boxes that you mentioned. last week we had a flow of funds for the first time in three years. back into equities. it was the largest amount in eleven years. there's trillions of dollars on the sidelines, maria. that's the fuel for my secular bull market. and leadership is definitely financials, health care, consumer staples, consumer discretionary, industrials. i just love the marvegt. >> you know, ralph, it's pisani, treasuries have had negative returns so far this year. maybe if this continues through the quarter and all of those get negative returns on their mutual fund reports for the first time in ages, they be that would be the catalyst. >> rick santelli, the time i was in the sick bed we had a wild ride for the treasuries. back to a midpoint range now. what are the markets telling you these days? >> i think i agree with jim bianco. if you look at a 20-year chart of dell, we haven't spent time over 20 since '08. we haven't spent time ab
catastrophic results for many americans and the overall economy. he warned markets would go haywire if congress does not act, interest rates would rise, and checks to social security beneficiaries would stop. and he said even thinking about the u.s. not paying its bills is irresponsible and, "absurd". darren gersh reports. >> reporter: in his first news conference of the new year the president gave a harsh lecture to republicans about the need to raise the debt ceiling and he once again said there was no way he'd negotiate with congress about something it should do anyway. >> they will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the american economy. the financial well-being of the american people is not leverage to be used. the full faith and credit of the united states of america is not a bargaining chip. >> reporter: republicans called the president hypocritical for saying he will not negotiate over the debt limit while blasting republicans for refusing to negotiate. and they fired back that the debate over the debt ceiling was the perfect time to consider legislation to cut spending.
coming this week. joining us now is jeff clinetopp at lpl financial. on the economy, dick hoey. jeff, it's going to start with you because i'm interested to see we could have not just a lower than expected increase in earnings this year, but maybe even a negative year since aus thegs companies and profit margin is were peaking. is it possible the s&p earnings do not grow this year? >> there's a distinct possibility earnings don't grow. our expectation is they grow a very small amount, but a lot of that is coming from share buyback these year. this quicker alone is a testament to that. this fourth quarter, supposed to be the lowest earnings dollar total for any of the quarters of last year. that's not the way it's supposed to work. fourth quarters is supposed to be the highest earnings total. but we've got that uncertainty lingering for 2012. this week, we'll hear from a lot of the fms. they have the highest earnings expectations for 2013. mortgages are doing well. but the less favorable -- >> and we know how difficult it has been to grow revenues year over year. so that's difficult and y
anyway. >> they will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the american economy. the financial well-being of the american people is not leverage to be used. the full faith and credit of the united states of america is not a bargaining chip. >> reporter: republicans called the president hypocritical for saying he will not negotiate over the debt limit while blasting republicans for refusing to negotiate. and they fired back that the debate over the debt ceiling was the perfect time to consider legislation to cut spending. at the same time, only a handful of republicans have actually said they'd let the united states default on its bills. >> the president claims this, but republicans have always raised the debt ceiling. we've never seen the debt limit fail to be raised. all they have said is we want to apply the same criteria that the president himself applied when he was a senator and say we don't want to give the president a blank check. we would like to fix the substantive problem which is the level and the growth in the debt. >> reporter: markets are almost tre
about the u.s. economy, the turning in the house prices, europe, for example, these things will make an extraordinary amount of money even if they require more capital because banks are extremely leveraged institutions. and you only need a small amount of top line growth for them to make a lot of profits. >> if you to pick u.s. banks versus the rest of the world, what do you like for 2013? >> it bizarre thing is that last year everybody was upset about the masters of the universe and were talking up their retail and sort of consumer arms because credit losses were falling. interestingly, this year i suspect bank with more exposure to independent banking will probably do a lot better much to the chagrin of politicians i suspect. why is that? the m&a pipeline's looking all right. u.s. economy's looking slightly better. and we're still pre-basal 3. >> we'll leave it there. lex on wex, can we use that? >> yeah. >> is that all right with you? >> fine by me. >> lex on wex. >> stuart, thank you very much. we will be talking later about divestment. merger and acquisition activity this year d
sensitive to the economy commodity in the world. ip took out a lot of capacity. ip is a genius. this company's had an unmitigated run. capacity's constrained, prices going up, 95% of capacity. that is like -- you can put the price increase after price increase, that says the economy is much stronger than expected. this is the first commodity to raise prices big when things get better. they're raising prices consistently. very bullish. >> that is a great, great tell. still more to come this morning. get ready for an ipo hat trick, sunco energy partners, norwegian cruise lines, all making their debuts this morning. stick around to see how they open for trading. the opening bell is just a few minutes away. what are you doing? nothing. are you stealing our daughter's school supplies and taking them to work? no, i was just looking for my stapler and my... this thing. i save money by using fedex ground and buy my own supplies. that's a great idea. i'm going to go... we got clients in today. [ male announcer ] save on ground shipping at fedex office. ♪ [ indistinct shouting ] [ male announcer ] t
and the economy in general. and about the market. let's start with the news, the market had a great day today. the s&p 500 close to or at a five-year high right now. why is the market doing so well even though the economy is still kind of in a slow move? >> david, nobody can explain the day-to-day moves in the market anmatter how hard we try. the market discounts well in advance of what we mere morals are able to do for my day-to-day. other days you're not sure why. i would be hazarding a guess, i don't know why. david: a lot of people have speculated about this from the "wall street journal" and others that it is the contention in the specific intention of the federal reserve over the past year or so to pump up the market. is that true? >> certainly this is in effect have a much lower interest rates. you can do the math, historically low rates for corporations in america public or private, large or small. medium-sized. have a very small balance sheets, redoing the balance sheet, reposition their debt at much lower prices. it'd just get some clarity as you know, a little more clarity, a lot m
of the economy. a discussion about the fed earlier in terms of the beige book numbers. what do you think that tells us on where we are in the economy? >> look at numbers of the last week or two, retail production numbers for december, and they were actually pretty good. of course, the employment numbers we already know were soiled, and this is in a period where the uncertainty over the fiscal cliff was reaching a maximum. you know, maria, you think that's pretty encouraging that the economy has managed to cope with a high level of uncertainty. now the thing that kind of bothers me though is i'm a little bit worried that this coping is flipping over to complacency. the vix is now at a six-year low, and it tells me that the market is discounting 100% probability that we get through the debt ceiling without any trouble. that seems too high to me. >> so do you think the market is expecting that? i mean, when would you expect a big change in terms of the interest rate scenario? >> in terms of the interest rate scenario, probably nothing this year. i mean, we're at least a couple years away fr
. that means the lending is not going on. we're still at increasingly a low economy. if you buy back the dell, you don't go to the banks anymore. you find other sources of money. i think that the financial story and economic story is saying this is not the kind of financial environment that leads to rapid growth. >> interesting. >> okay. >> you tied it in to dell and jpmorgan and everything else. excellent. larry, thank you. >> my pleasure. >> join us tomorrow. "squawk on the street" begins right now. >>> good wednesday morning. welcome to "squawk on the street." i'm melissa lee with carl quintanilla, and jim cramer and david faber at the new york stock exchange. stocks had a pretty nice day yesterday. the s&p closed at five-year highs. we are looking to the down decide this morning. the dow looking to lose about 62 at the open. the picture in europe, a couple of downgrades for gdp forecasts from both the german government and world bank. italy is down by 1.5%. road map this morning starts off with the banks and earnings. jpmorgan higher. goldman sachs at 18-month highs. >> japan airlines gro
is the likelihood the u.s. economy could have a stronger here than economists were expecting? >> and excellent question. i think the risks are just as good on the outside or they are on the downside. there is a lot of growing momentum in the u.s. economy. all of this in then you have the energy boom in the whole shale thing helping in that industry and related industries. there are a lot of bright spots in the u.s. you know, the guys in washington do not mock it up, we have a good shot. melissa: we have breaking news right now. i want to point you to the shares of facebook. down $0.60. that is good for almost 2%. we have this meeting going on right now. it is a major reversal for the stock. we are trying to get more details out of this meeting. we will have rob enderle on at the end to talk about it. shibani: i am following a couple of live logs on the event. the three pillars of facebook. when he unveiled today is his 23 pillar which is being called graph search. it is a graphical search. it is not a web search. that is one of the reasons we are seeing a selloff of facebook shares. again, wha
or markets could go haywire causing a self-inflicted wound to the economy. is he exaggerating? what's the take on the remarks in reaction how the debt ceiling sorts itself out? >> i don't think he's exaggerating at all. we have these debates every year right now, and we have the better part of the last 20 years, but it seems like when it comes to the wire, we always find a way to raise the debt ceiling, get washington back to work again, and that is our expectation. the difficulty is that the uncertainty in washington is freezing the treasury mark and investors. >> okay. back to ben bernanke, commenting this afternoon, if he reassures wall street he plans to continue the bond buying for as long as it needs to happen to get unemployment back, to get the economy growing. do you think that will keep rates depressed or signals, yeah, you know, we don't need to continue with this as long as we had initially planned to. do you expect a sharp, a rise in rates in take it from there. curious to where you think rates are headed. >> lori, between now and the date of sequesteringen on march 1st
in the second half of this year, we could start seeing some economies get traction again. of course, some of the very badly hit economies like greece, it will take longer. but europe i think should improve. >> the chairman and ceo of mercedes-benz joining us first on cnbc. the e-class rollout here earlier today. i'm not sure that i have ever seen an unveiling with as many people as were jammed in here to the mercedes stand today here in detroit. back to you. >> that is a big deal, phil. you've seen your share of unveilings, that's for sure. phil lebeau in treat today. one food company on the move, let's get to kayla tausche who is manning the market flash desk. >> watching flowers foods. that's a southern food company, flo. about $4 billion in market cap, that stock up more than 6% hitting an all-time high on its first trading day after signing an agreement to acquire the majority of the bread businesses from hostess brands. that includes wonder bread. of course we're still waiting for some of the other bidders for some of the other units to be announced. right now flowers is the bid to b
did. the fact is we still have a good fundamental backdrop. the economy is expanding. it's not contracting or growing. value sheets are strong and valuations are very attractive so what is there not to like? >> you're our resident skeptic today, and i would point not to the normal averages that we quote every day, but look at the dow transportation average which could close at an all-time high today. the transportation companies, often a leading indicator for the economy. if they are doing well. chances are the economy is going to get better. wouldn't that make you want to buy stocks right now. >> it does. we're not -- we're actually a little bit more bullish, esespecially the first six months of the year. we still are expecting slow growth, commodities where we're shorting assets, but in terms of u.s. and in terms of international, we do expect growth, and we are excited about what's happening, but later on in the year i think it's going to be another story. >> what do you mean by that, later on in the year? what's going to be the upset later on in the year? >> there's a
the debt ceiling or put the u.s. economy st. at risk. it's tuesday, january 15th, 2013 and "squawk box" begins right now. >>> good morning, everybody. welcome to "squawk box" here on cnbc. i'm becky quick along with joe kernen and andrew ross sorkin. we've been watching the u.s. equity futures and at least at this point you can see they do look like they're indicated to open a little lower. right now, dow futures down by about 16 points below fair value. the s&p futures are about 2 points below fair value. we have some different nebs going on at the top of the screen than we do on that fair value board. we'll check on that, as well. >>> dell is said to be in talks with private companies in reports of a possible guyout. the journal says jpmorgan is involved in the negotiations. dell shares have been soaring near an eight-month high on first word of this news yesterday. you can see up about close to 2% to the premarket sales. 64 is the last dip. in other technology news, facebook is holing a press conference today. no word on what the big announcement will be. you've heard a lot of analy
that is indeed worrisome. however, we are seeing some pretty good signs in the economy right now, so we're hopefully optimistic that they'll continue. and last thing anybody who's bet against america has proved it's a losing bet in the past. we're very bullish on this country. >> steve, thanks so much for your time. thank you for joining us first on cnbc. >> thank you. >>> interesting debate. meantime, goldman sachs making waves with the bonus pay joits. we'll get that in a moment. after the break, david faber's exclusive with mel karmazin. he's here to give us his very first interview since stepping down as the ceo of sirius xm. we're back in a couple of minutes. mine was earned in djibouti, africa, 2004. the battle of bataan, 1942. [ all ] fort benning, georgia, in 1999. [ male announcer ] usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation because it offers a superior level of protection and because usaa's commitment to serve the military, veterans, and their families is without equal. begin your legacy. get an auto-insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to s
, housing is better, you want to be invested in this economy for the next three to five years because that's where you're going to make money. you're not going to make money in fixed income. you're not going to make money focusing on only pure dividend stocks that are 5%, 6%. you're going to have to have companies that can grow the top lines, that have the ability to shepherd capital and really can take the consumer that is now in a better shape than the u.s. and now is getting better overseas to grow your company. >> okay. so you're talking mostly about multi national companies or -- >> multi nationals and secular growth companies. >> both? >> both, absolutely. but you want good companies with management that are just not going to sit there and do financial engineering and say, oh, we borrowed more money and because our cost of debt is lower than our dividend and we can do that. that party is over. that game is done. you really want the companies that i think if you want to beat the market and we think actually the market is going to have -- is going to grow, gives you a look at how much
can that continue? >> slightly lower, down at 180. people think it will be bad for the economy. risk assets and things like equities did to get sold. the quality still is the u.s. treasury, the u.s. government. rates fall. that is one side of it. the big question is, where is elsewhere? that will be the big question. i think just a matter of time if we do get to this point, deficits are so large, at some point you'll have to pay the price at higher borrowing costs. at some point, that will be the ultimate outcome. dagen: for does that mean? you manage municipal bonds if the democrats have their way in raising taxes even more, that is good for muni bonds? >> the day after the election, we had a tremendous rally. the perception was taxes may go off. we have to deal right new year's eve. i talked to more people of the last few days who opened that first paycheck and their reaction was, boy, that tax fight was pretty big. that is the fact in front of us. i think it is likely that president obama will, as he has in the past, copy the value of deductions. i think it will be difficult to ul
are and as much as we can tell about the economy and financial sector, we will be obsessed with jamie dimon, if he didn't get as much of a bonus as normal because his pristine reputation because of the wale slipping -- thing we can find as members of the media. >> $6 million trade on a balance sheet of -- >> i don't know how much they made in spite of that. a lot. >>> speaking of the bank, another -- >> look who's here! >> and dressed normally, too. >> can we get the man a chair? he can't sit -- ♪ >> we thought you were trying on different zweaters. on a day like this, what is the right look for a young, happening, dashing -- >> what -- what -- >> you have time. don't do this to viewers. it's not that important. did you not get make-up? >> no. he didn't. >> look at -- this is natural beauty. >> you didn't shave -- you really think you need to be here that much that you can't get make-up? >> absolutely. >> taking one for the team. >> all right. >> speaking of this -- stay on us, please. morgan stanley will take -- you can get powder or something if you want. just headlines -- >> the women didn't
and diversified our economy. we decided we would be business friendly. we also did not have subprime mortgage. we did not have housing fall. foreclosures never really got serious. we kept people in their homes and kept them working. connell: we hope you enjoy the rest of your stay. dagen: we are glad the texans lost. [ laughter ] we are from the northeast. i am just kidding. thank you so much. near record low water levels in lake michigan causing cargo ships and barges to liken their loads. connell: let's go to steve now on how it can impact your wallet. >> because we have had such low water levels, it will impact your wallet. it has been dry in the region. we have had light rains in the summertime in that has produced lower water levels in all of the great lakes. if you are wondering just how low it is, we have a graphic to show you. between 87 and 97, the water drop a foot. between 94 another foot lower. it is at historic low water levels in lake michigan. cargo companies will have to carry less. >> you cannot strike bottom. you have to maintain a safe distance. when the water levels go down, w
to hold wall street and the big banks accountable and protect consumer and the u.s. economy. >> after all we have been through, i don't believe that rolling back regulations on wall street will help the small businesswoman expand or the laid off construction worker keep his home. >> reporter: republicans in congress want to cut obama era and even bush era regulations which they dismiss as unnecessary red tape. two laws are at issue here. dodd-frank and sarbanes-oxley. dodd-frank is the signature financial reform of president obama's first term. it set up the consumer financial protection bureau to write new rules to prevent fraud and unfair lending practices and put limits on banks deemed too big to fail by monitoring threats and stopping another financial crisis. sarbanes-oxley was a response to a different crisis, the enron accounting scandal of the early 2000s. it set up stricter accounting rules for companies of all sizes. critics say it drives up costs for smaller businesses and restricts growth. what does it mean for small businesss? for the big banks? well, we spoke to a community
, you have to see the economy get better. that could happen. i'm hoping it will happened. i'm just not sure if this is the time to put new money into goldman sachs, if we're sure not sure that will play its way out. it's just a matter of, how long does it take for the uncertainty to get out of the way, so companies can get back to making acquisitions. >> jeff, do people give you a hard time when you cut the ratings and yet boost the price targets? that gets made fun of a lot. >> yeah, we do get some for it. the price target increase, it's very form layically driven. what our pick it into our what it's done over the last decades, and the price target -- i don't think 1.1 times tangible is expensive, but we do get some push back on that for sure. >> i'll bet you do. we had a discussion earlier about whether the go long money center short liegen center will last other reverse. do you have a view? >> i would expect it to last, maybe continue. the pressure is hitting the bank industry right now. i think the money center banks have a usneaks advantage to not have as much pressure and exp
there are ways that we can do it, but to say that we're not -- we're going to jeopardize the economy of the united states and frankly even the world by not paying the bills that have already been incurred is absolutely -- [talking over to each other] david: you were willing to bring us to that brink in 02, 04, and 06. >> no i wasn't. david: you voted in favor of keeping the debt limit ceiling right where it was, that was the same kind of danger in going over into that default mode, no? >> it wasn't because that was a kind of protest vote knowing very full well that this was going to pass. are we seriously going to not let president bush pay for the debts that had been incurred? i absolutely would have voted in favor of raising the debt ceiling. david: final question about spending because i'm getting a wrap here. >> sure. david: we had in 2008 we had spending level of about 3 trillion dollars. in 2009 that ballooned up about 20% to about 3 1/2 trillion dollars. now, a lot of that was because of the stimulus program, which was part bush and part president obama. but then we remained a
to answer questions at the university of michigan. we will let you know what he's saying about our economy and the future fed action. as we know that can be market moving. this event could move the markets tomorrow. david: that's a live picture coming out of michigan. we will be going right back there. also the news of apple cutting down orders for iphone parts is driving the stock way down again today. we have an apple analyst who cut his price target by 150 bucks back in december. does he think it's also time for the company to cut their ceo tim cook? sandra: shares of dell soaring on talk of a buyout. more on both tech stories coming up. keep it right here. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] this is karen anjeremiah. they don't know it yet, but they' gonna fall in love, get married, have a couple of kids, [ children laughing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life together where they almost never fight about money. [ dog barks ] because right after they get married, they'll find some retirement people who are paid on salary, not commission. they'll get straightforrd guidance and be a
on the economy, in terms of housing, mortgages, hiring, and we watch that trading activity in the last quarter. >> susie: and we'll have all of those numbers tomorrow. that's "nightly business report" for tonight, tuesday, jnuary 15. have a great evening, everyone. see you tomorrow, tom. have a great evening, everyone. and you, too, tom. >> tom: good night, susie. we'll see you online at www.nbr.com and back here tomorrow night. captioning sponsored by wpbt captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org
financials are a significant sector in the overall market, and they have the pulse on the economy, in terms of housing, mortgages, hiring, and we watch that trading activity in the last quarter. >> susie: and we'll have all of those numbers tomorrow. that's "nightly business report" for tonight, tuesday, january 15. have a great evening, everyone. see you tomorrow, tom. hae a great evenin everye. and you, too, tom. >> tom:ood night, susie. we'll see you online at www.nbr.com and back here tomorrow night. captioning sponsored by wpbt captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org
will provide for the banking sector for consumer confidence for our economy in general. we have to see financials do well kicking off tomorrow. david: we're going to talk the market just tomorrow about this, but is there any kind of move we could see a selloff springtime when a lot of people are saving their cash? >> that is so well advertised. everybody whereby short-term correction and to that point maybe people talking about the next of the 1425, the next resistance, going up to far too fast, but so well advertised. everybody knows what they are. still seems to be higher. everybody is thinking we will see a correction and that is probably why we will not see one. david: thank you very much. we will see you in a couple of minutes when the market closes. hang on for that. liz: let's bring in our panel for the market. let me begin with you. you are pretty bearish, but to say you're bearish is unfair to the viewers because the market is such a huge living, breathing creature. where are you most concerned and what do you like that doesn't scare you? >> we like income. the dividend tax ra
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